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Opponents of this, are forgetting that there is a separation of church and state. I just voted you down for the remark you made in this debate and will continue to do so every time I see an answer from you that is not germane or is disguised as a piece of humor because you don't really care to take a stand.Its time to quit policing peoples morals and learn that two concenting adults should be able to have the same rights as anyone else. On this one you used the tag to get your true feelings on the board and decided to make a "butt" joke out of the topic. Even though my sense of fun and humor are intact...yours really isn't because you use it to injure and hurt people.I thought my heart was in the right place; that I was lending a helping hand. I also agree with the quote you posted and try, even though at times it is very hard, to live my life by it:"God give me the strength to change the things I can,the patience to put it with the things I can't,and the wisdom to know the difference." You seem to think that only your vision of what this site should be is the valid vision.

Your analogy of the homeless guy needing a bed to sleep in is about as demented as you are.

Joe, I don't give a twaddle if you agree with me on any issue but the one thing you're wrong about is that I ever expected you to share my views nor do I expect that from anyone here or in my life.

That's not friendship, that's being a puppet at someone else's whim.

You were so busy trying to think of unfunny things to say you couldn't think for one moment that I may have needed some words of encouragement from you on that board! This fundamental difference is what makes us be at odds with each other.

For what it's worth, I hope the gay community gets what they want. When proposition 8 passed and the facts came out (blacks voted overwhelmingly for it, the proponents spent less money and won, etc.) and after talking to people who had signs on their yard, I realized that this was an up hill battle and suggested by passing the religious right. I'm a straight boy, as you so eloquently put it, and I guess I will never understand you or your plight.

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